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From Peace and Love to Chaos: Unveiling the Dark History of Woodstock 99

Christopher D Patchet, LCSW Lindsay McClane Season 1 Episode 23

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How did a celebration of peace and love turn into a chaotic disaster? Join us on the Toxic Cooking Show as we uncover the turbulent history of Woodstock festivals, from the iconic Woodstock '69 that defined a generation with artists like Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin, to the unruly and rebellious Woodstock '94 featuring acts like Green Day and Nine Inch Nails. We'll also dive into the dark side of Woodstock '99, a festival marked by aggression and commercialization. Guided by a nostalgic lens, we’ll explore how these events mirrored the societal changes of their times and shaped the festival culture we know today.

Brace yourself as we detail the disastrous logistics that plagued Woodstock '99, from extreme heat and contaminated water to insufficient facilities that led to unsanitary conditions. Uncover the sequence of events that escalated the chaos, including Limp Bizkit’s incendiary performance and a disturbing incident during Fatboy Slim’s set. We’ll also discuss the financial strains on attendees and how the promise of a surprise performance contributed to the festival’s catastrophic outcome. Tune in for a riveting exploration that charts the stark contrasts between these historic events and the downfall of what was once a symbol of unity and love.

Speaker 1:

Hi and welcome to the Toxic Cooking Show, where we break down toxic people to their simplest ingredients. I'm your host, christopher Patchett LCSW.

Speaker 2:

And I'm Lindsay McLean.

Speaker 1:

So this has been an episode ever since we talked about doing this podcast. I've been looking forward to Uh-huh two, uh-huh. I realized that this is the 25th anniversary of woodstock 99 when I first brought up this idea and I said to you like, what do you know about woodstock 99. What do you know about Woodstock 99?

Speaker 2:

Well, because I have been good and did not Google it, I know jack shit. I know nothing. I had heard of the name before, but that's basically it.

Speaker 1:

So basically, you know it's a concert, right, yeah. So what is a concert? It's a concert, right yeah. So what is a concert doing on the Toxic Cooking Show? This must have been an exciting concert. Oh, I probably wouldn't use the word exciting.

Speaker 2:

Good point good point.

Speaker 1:

So please tell me that you at least know Woodstock 69. Yes, I 69.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I do See. I'm not a complete idiot. Give me some credit.

Speaker 1:

So okay, so Woodstock 69, what? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2:

of Woodstock 69?. I don't know enough about it to really comment. I know, and it was a big concert. I know it's a pivotal, pivotal, wow, pivotal moment. I know, no, it's a pivotal moment. I know there were a lot of hippies and a lot of drugs and freedom of expression. However we want that is associated with it, but that's about it, to be honest.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was hippies, it was big acts of the day Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Joe Crocker. So it was three days of peace, love and music.

Speaker 2:

Ah, yes.

Speaker 1:

So it was, yeah, it was hippies, it was a lot of drugs, it was a music festival, it was, you know, a lot of the beliefs of the Vietnam War and a lot of people back home or here in America were protesting against the war. So it was three days of bringing togetherness and bringing love and bringing peace, and all that Fast forward 25 years. And I remember doing a project about Woodstock 69 and how awesome it seemed and that was kind of the take of it and everything. And so they had Woodstock 94. Did you even know about that?

Speaker 2:

I did not, not even on the radar. Okay, I will admit so. Mentally in my head I was like I know I'm bad at math, but the math ain't math-in. And that exploded.

Speaker 1:

So they had woodstock 94 and it was advertised as three more days of peace, love and music and it was big acts of the time. You had green day, nine inch nails, uh, but there was like a lot of it was kind of all over the place. So they had cypress hill, they had uh, so I mean you had a little bit of metal into it, you had a little bit of rock into it, you had a little bit of hip-hop into it, you had a little bit of country into it and they brought back a couple the surviving people of whatstock 69. And so it was like one of the members from the Grateful Dead was in it. It was shown on MTV and it was. I mean it looked a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

I was 14 at the time and you know it was. You watched it. You saw Green Day and they had like there was like a big storm the night before so there was, like you know, mud all over the place and people rolling around in the mud. You saw people, like you know they were flinging you know mud at green day, and green day is flinging it back and I'm sure this appealed to baby patches.

Speaker 2:

He was like I want to be there, yeah it was.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you saw it on mtv and you're like, oh my god, I want to be there, and so it looked like a lot of fun. It was yeah, it was just all around it. You, it was the festival among festivals yeah so originally I think it was like 150,000 tickets were sold oh my gosh and another 200,000 broke in, oh wow. So altogether there was 350,000 people at this concert.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, you could not pay me to be there Too many.

Speaker 1:

Woodstock 69 actually kind of has the same thing. There was only a certain amount of people that actually paid for the ticket, and then a large majority of the people just kind of like broke in nice a lot of fun in Woodstock 69. A lot of fun in Woodstock 94. It was the 25th anniversary, and so Woodstock 94. It was the 25th anniversary, and so Woodstock 99. Lots of fun.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to guess it was actually not lots of fun.

Speaker 1:

Woodstock 99 is capitalism at its finest.

Speaker 2:

That's never a good way to start things off, is it?

Speaker 1:

So you're figuring that the majority of people that were going were 19, 20, 21, 22, something like that. There were people who were young as 14 going. There were people who were young as 14 going, and it was just kind of one of these things where the music was not all over the place as it was in 94. It wasn't peaceful, so to say. Metallica they were in 94, but they were headlining in 99. Korn.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Limp Bizkit Rage Against the Machines.

Speaker 2:

I can see where this went wrong already Just with that lineup starting.

Speaker 1:

So it was the height of popularity of new metal, and not new as in N-E-W. It's new, as in N-U.

Speaker 2:

Don't worry, you've raised me correctly. I did know that.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Fair, fair.

Speaker 1:

You didn't know much about Woodside in 1999.

Speaker 2:

That's a good point.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, you're having a lot of aggressive bands Very, very suddenly sprinkled in, was like Alanis Morissette, sheryl Crow and Jewel. Those were your more peaceful type music. Ah. So started july 22nd, 23rd, 24th friday, saturday, sunday, and I want you to picture yourself 14, 15, 16, 17.

Speaker 2:

You know.

Speaker 1:

first time away from home. You bought this ticket for $150, which would now be close to $300. You walk into the gate, you, a female, with two or three of your female friends, and as soon as you walk into the gate, your bags are searched. Any food, any water is taken out and thrown away.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

Capitalism at its finest.

Speaker 2:

That's true, you did warn me.

Speaker 1:

All this money that you just spent on food and water just went into the trash bin.

Speaker 2:

Cool, cool, cool. This is I'm having a great time. Already went into the trash bin.

Speaker 1:

Cool, cool, cool. This is. I'm having a great time already After spending, close to you know, $300 of today's money on a ticket. So you have your camping gear, you have all the weed that you've ever wanted, because that can come through. Okay, things are looking up. So, so all the drugs and and and everything that's cool. Yeah, bottled water is thrown in the trash.

Speaker 2:

Right, okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Got it and as you're walking, through two or three of your friends. The first thing you hear is show us your tits, okay but if I'm 14, do I have them?

Speaker 1:

yet these guys apparently don't care.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, cool, Cool.

Speaker 1:

Even better. So there there was. There's two really good documentaries. Uh, one is on Netflix, uh, one was on, uh, luminosity of Woodstock 99 and, uh, one of the girls she was actually 14 who actually went in you know, she was from the middle of the country, so you know Bible belt, and this is her first experience of leaving her hometown, oh my gosh. And again, that was the very first thing that she heard was show us your tips. Again, that was the very first thing that she heard was show us your tits. So now you're seeing why this is being brought up. On the Toxic.

Speaker 2:

Cooking Show here. Oh yeah, I thought we were going to get a little bit further in, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's like right off the bat Okay, cool.

Speaker 1:

So the beam lineups that I just mentioned, it was mostly your frat bros, and actually the funny thing is I was trying to go to this concert as well Frat bros and me, yeah and the thing was is I was a shift manager at Pizza at the time and there was only two of us and there had to be a manager at all time. So for me to ask my manager if he could work four days straight wasn't happening.

Speaker 2:

Wow, maybe for the best that you didn't go then.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, actually, and just remember, you just walked onto the campgrounds, okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we're already show us your tits.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm having a great time. So you know, here I was, I was making $6.15 an hour and I was missing out on the greatest concert that would ever happen hour. And I was missing out on the greatest concert that would ever happen and which now looking back at it.

Speaker 1:

Thankfully I actually had a ride up there and everything, so thankfully I didn't go for her. As you'll find out, three days Friday, saturday, sunday all three days were above a hundred degrees. Ooh, all three days were above 100 degrees. So all that bottled water that you brought in preparing for the weather has been thrown out and now you are forced to pay $8.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

In 99. So about $12. In 2024, I would not pay $8 for a bottle of water. So basically the equivalent of like $12, $13 for a bottled water.

Speaker 2:

Nah.

Speaker 1:

And you figure that this is over 100 degrees and you know people were spending about $60 to $80 just on water alone.

Speaker 2:

No, that's how people die.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well.

Speaker 1:

Why am I not?

Speaker 2:

surprised. Sorry, I won't get ahead of you, I'll let you get there.

Speaker 1:

You have to wait until day two for that.

Speaker 2:

Oh okay, oh, it took that long.

Speaker 1:

You're, you're going on a campground and first thing you're hearing, you're hearing show us your tits. You know, multiple times now. You set up camp and right next to you is five frat bros, you know, with the upside-down visor cap. You know, you know this is 1999 at its finest. You know this is 1999 at its finest and they're checking you out. They're watching your every move, seeing what you're pulling out, and already you are skeptical of leaving your tent because what's going to get stolen?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So somebody has to be at the tent at all times. You have two choices Either the the girl one of your friends is left by herself next to the frat bros that have been checking out all the everything that's inside, or the Two of you stay at the tent while one of you kind of goes to one show time and walking between a bunch of more guys screaming out show us your tits.

Speaker 2:

See, this is why in Paris, the police officers always travel in packs of four, so you never have one of them that's left. You can split up into two groups of two, and you never have just one them that's left. Like you, you can split up into two groups of two and you never have just one person left on their own well, you, you, you're jumping ahead a little bit here because that was actually the next thing I was gonna say.

Speaker 2:

So thank god for security, right no, no, I'm not having a good time again. I thought I was having a good time because I had unlimited. So thank God for security, right? No, no, I'm not having a good time again. I thought I was having a good time because I had unlimited weed.

Speaker 1:

but now I see I'm not having a good time, so your security is a bunch of 18-year-olds who were hired a couple weeks beforehand, and that is literally your security.

Speaker 1:

I feel very safe. They have a shirt that says Peace Patrol. They have like a little badge, you know, with their picture yes, not the Peace Patrol, oh, no, not the Peace Patrol. Oh, not the Peace Patrol. Oh, no, not the Peace Patrol. Yeah, your security is not exactly the best. And, to top it off, a lot of your quote-unquote Peace Patrols were doing it just to get into the concerts for free.

Speaker 1:

Oh hell yeah, and once again, capitalism at its finest. Oh, hell yeah. Once again, capitalism at its finest. Hey, I have a couple of these shirts and this badge which can get you backstage for $500.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

Which is not going to get you backstage.

Speaker 2:

No, of course not.

Speaker 1:

But hell, you know, I mean I'm here and I can make a lot of money. So here is the shirt and the badge. Thanks for your $500. Now I'm going to wander off into these, you know, 250,000 people. Good luck trying to find me.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's a solid business idea. I will say for them.

Speaker 1:

So okay, so a lot of your people who were on the Peace Patrol sold off their stuff for a couple hundred dollars so that way they can have a really good time at the concert. The recruitment for the Peace Patrol it was a few hour class and it was a test that a lot of people were saying that the teachers would kind of say, like you know, like, remember this, because it might show up on the test and if it shows up as and they would read off the test and you know they would say you would answer this way. So it's not exactly that you had to be the most vigilant. Uh, it wasn't the fact that you had to be the the brightest or even know what the you were doing, as long as you listened to when they said this may be on the test you were guaranteed to get in.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's great. I love this for us.

Speaker 1:

So these are now the people that are protecting you from the show us your tits.

Speaker 2:

I'm feeling very safe, I can assure you.

Speaker 1:

So to make it even better.

Speaker 2:

No, no, don't make it better.

Speaker 1:

No, no, don't make it. We're what kind of setting? Do you think like an outdoor three-day music?

Speaker 2:

festival is going to be at. I mean, I'm assuming it's fairly remote, because you need a big enough place to have all of these people fairly remote, you know out, you know nice grassy areas and or a closed down Air Force base. I mean, that's, that sounds fun too yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know a hundred degrees and it's beating off of this asphalt of a old military base.

Speaker 2:

That's even better. Coming from the South, I know what that does.

Speaker 1:

So one of the other beautiful things remember how I was telling you about woodstock 94 where there was like the mud fight and everything like that and how awesome it looked and things like that yeah well, one of the other things that they did to save money on woodstock 99 was toilets. Oh no, so you have 250,000 people and guess what people do multiple times per day People have to pee, people have to poop.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

And so there wasn't enough toilets. There were long ass lines and people were. You were kind of in this position where you could use one of the bathrooms that was filled with shit and go in and hold your nose and pray that it was just a tinkle and if you're female, well, you're fucked. Learn to stand.

Speaker 2:

Hey, now we have the she-we.

Speaker 1:

If only they had that in 99 I know uh. So you know, guys have this, uh, this special ability to uh not have to have a place to sit down to uh. We be, and is ending up doing this like outside, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know how men work. You just piss on everything. Got a mojo territory somehow Gross.

Speaker 1:

You did have some free water. They did have like drinking fountains and things like that.

Speaker 2:

However, of course there's a catch, dang it.

Speaker 1:

You have 250,000 people. A lot of them got impatient with the bathroom situation. They're peeing and pooping behind the toilets, which ends up running down into, like you know like up, running down into, like you know, like uh. So now you have um water that is um filled with uh feces, and you know uh because they were temporary.

Speaker 1:

You know uh water stations yeah so they weren't exactly the most well built. Piss was getting into it, fecesces was getting into it, and this is what was the free water Yum, Yum, yum. So, just as I was saying about Woodstock 99, there was the quote unquote. They called them the mud. People who were flinging mud at the bands and bands would fling them back. There was a muddy area.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it was a muddy area. No, no, it was clearly not just dirt.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, it was over 100 degrees, it hadn't rained, but yet this certain area, not too far from the toilets, became muddy.

Speaker 2:

Gee, I wonder what liquid that is.

Speaker 1:

So now you have people who are trying to recreate the experience of Woodstock 94.

Speaker 2:

I feel so sick listening to this.

Speaker 1:

You know what, but it's probably the sickness that you feel is probably not the sickness of the hepatitis A that probably most of these people end up getting. That is very true.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. Oh, that's so nasty. Surely the smell clued them in that this was not regular mud.

Speaker 1:

No, you know what I thought of that myself? Like hey, this mud smells like shit, Quite literally.

Speaker 2:

Literally. Maybe I shouldn't be throwing it at people.

Speaker 1:

Or touching it for that matter. So it gets better. Now you actually have the band's plant okay, cool, the, the weed sparks up and everything like that. And right in the middle of it you have mtv. So you have 250 000 people 90 of them are, you know, the frat bros, who are pissed off at mtv because all they're seeing is mtv as a total request, live, and them showing nothing but backstreet boys and how they sold out. And now you have this big corporation showing up and interviewing people and all their game is, you know, uh, hey, are you having a good time? You know I'm, I'm so-and-so from mtv and we're gonna go out here and it's fuck you, you know I mean I, I can kind of see their point, but also so this is still all day one.

Speaker 1:

So music's starting to pump out. You know, first day, little things here and there, okay. So day two you have it's again over 100 degrees, military base, $8 for a bottled water and Metallica comes on. Metallica comes on and you know, of course there's going to be like a mosh pit. There was a guy he had always dreamed of seeing mataka now a huge fan of theirs and everything like that. He leaves his tent, uh, and goes up and says you know, I'll be right back and you know. So he goes off, he goes up to the stage and basically all they're doing for these people is they're taking a hose and they're just kind of like spraying it out amongst the crowd to like, cool them off, to water them to cool them off?

Speaker 1:

which a couple water hoses versus uh versus 250 000 people? Um, yeah, on On a concrete Air Force base when it's over 100 degrees.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can guess that that did a lot to help.

Speaker 1:

So here in the middle of the concert or in the middle of Montego Asset, somebody drops down? Yeah, they help them up, they bring them over to one of the medical tents which, believe it or not, was actually very fully equipped. Okay, that's good at least the downside to it.

Speaker 2:

Man come on, Let me have a nice thing.

Speaker 1:

A lot of the doctors. There were interns.

Speaker 2:

God damn it.

Speaker 1:

Again, capitalism at its finest. You can either pay a doctor who knows what's going on a shit ton of money, or you can pay doctors who are just starting off into the field and pay them less. Yeah starting off into the field and paying less. Yeah. So, which you know, when it comes to medical things and 100-degree weather with lack of water, it's not going to go wrong.

Speaker 2:

No, never.

Speaker 1:

Guy was, when he was brought to the tent, already at 170 degrees.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, at that point I think it's like 103, your brain is starting to fry. Yeah, um, he's at 107 and so, uh, unfortunately they took their time, uh, and he did get airlifted and brought to the hospital and by the time that he got to the hospital he was already in a coma. Wow, unfortunately, his mother had to make the choice, had to pull the plug and you know, you had somebody die from heat exhaustion. So on with the concert. It's not often that I will defend Limp Bizkit, but they always say like, whenever you hear of Woodstock 99, you'll always hear about Limp Bizkit. And so they went up, they did their set and during their set, you know, the crowd was really starting to get riled. They started breaking off pieces of wood and they started like surfing the crowd. You know, on these wood planks and things like that, fred Dursk, not exactly known for being like the the good guy type thing I mean, he's a douchebag, uh, and douchebags are gonna do what douchebags do best, and that's being a douchebag yep uh.

Speaker 1:

So he did have an opportunity to kind of see, um, you know, like, oh shit, like the, the crowd is kind of getting riled up. Maybe I should, like, you know, like, say something to kind of calm down the crowd. But again, douchebags again do what douchebags do best, which brought them into one of their famous songs at the time Break Stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great song to keep in the set rotation when people are already breaking shit and so, as as people are like surfing on these boards and things like that, uh, rather than being like hey guys, you know probably shouldn't be tearing apart the stages and things like that, I am surfing on them. You know he pointed at look at this crazy motherfucker, you know, over here on board, like that looks fucking badass. You know, fucking. You know everybody, fucking get your shit down. You know, yeah, rolling up the crowd that much more. Hmm, delightful.

Speaker 2:

Rolling up the crowd that much more.

Speaker 1:

Delightful. So a lot of times, like you, will hear that that was the turning point. But I mean you can't fully blame everything on Fred Durst. I mean, a lot of things were kind of set up for this absolute failure and just one douchebag is not going to be the make or break of a entire festival.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if people were already feeling feisty. I mean, there's only so much you can do.

Speaker 1:

And there's also the likelihood, like, even if you said you know y'all calm down, people would be like fuck you too, man, you're a cop out, and then just would have continued to break shit yeah, so let's go into, uh, you know, right after or right after limp biscuit, then you had rage against the machine, uh, so you just kept on having all these power, like you know, like hardcore bands coming up playing one after another, so nighttime they would have kind of your uh raves going on. So during the set of fat boy slim and this we we actually just talked about this last week with personal responsibility uh, and this, um god, I'm actually tearing up a little bit just hearing about or just mentioning about this, but you know, as uh one promoter, he had saw on the side that a woman was passed out uh, I don't like where this is going yeah, uh.

Speaker 1:

So apparently a guy was uh raping her uh right out there right next to the stage.

Speaker 1:

Damn, that fucking hurt you got this um, you know, apparently, you know, like fat boy slim, he he's, he's up on stage, he's doing this thing. You know he doesn't see what's going on beside him, but I mean, that doesn't account for the you know, hundreds of other people that are surrounding and seeing this happening, and so the promoter, like you know, finally tried to get an ambulance coming in to get this girl help. Mm-hmm, you know you had a bunch of. You know they're trying to bring in because basically the rave is under a tent, and so they're trying to bring in an ambulance to bring them closer to this girl. And you have hundreds of frat bros that see a new surfing toy, this girl, and you have hundreds of frat bros that see a new surfing toy.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I can assure you, when I see an ambulance I'm like I'm going to get on top of that shit. That's a good life choice right there.

Speaker 1:

So they had problems bringing in the ambulance and even as they slowly maneuver to this woman, they finally get her. But, like you know, everybody's standing up on the ambulance. Fat boy is slim, you know, he did stop, like you know, like the the music trying to, you know, calm everybody down and trying to tell people to move or keep clear, so that happened. People to move or keep clear, um, so that happened, um, and so, yeah, you know, now you have, now you have, like you know, like, uh, you know, sexual assault right out in the open, um, and not a single person other than one of the promoters, uh, did anything about it I don't love this for us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So you know, now we're going into day three. It's been building up and building up and building up. You know, again you got to figure like. You know, like capitalism at its finest, people were probably spending a good you know three $400 or in today's money, you money $700 just on food and water, after paying in today's money close to $300. That's $1,000 for three days.

Speaker 2:

It's a lot of money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it just encourages people to act badly and not buy enough food and water because they don't want to spend the money or they literally can't spend the money. I'm sure for some of them they couldn't so now they're.

Speaker 1:

Now they're hearing rumors that you know there's going to be a huge surprise at the end. So a lot of people are thinking that you know there were rumors of, you know, like prince showing up, there was rumors of like an extra band after uh, red hot chili peppers, and so you know, all this excitement is is building up. Here's gonna be the big payoff, here's here's gonna be the, considering everything that had happened the past two days before, and especially saturday, they pass out 250 000 candles and what the fuck were the candles going to do?

Speaker 2:

why would you give these people flame?

Speaker 1:

the last thing. I want them to have so they, they passed out all these candles and it it was going to be this big peaceful moment of all these people with candles in response to I couldn't find the promoters that did this, but it was supposed to be a world peace statement. But it was supposed to be, like you know, like a world peace, like you know, statement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm sure from like the TV's perspective, it would have looked really cool to have like 250,000 people with their little flames Like oh my God, look at that.

Speaker 1:

So last show of the night it was red hot chili peppers, and they're up on stage. And so they, the red hot chili peppers, they, they did a song, they're up on stage. And so the Red Hot Chili Peppers, they did a song in tribute to Jimi Hendrix. Guess what the name of the song was?

Speaker 2:

oh no, I don't know. Fire you know, I'm seeing the convergence of several things. I noticed the name that you put on this when we started recording and I had a couple of ideas of where that name might come from, and this has just confirmed.

Speaker 1:

So since there's probably, it's probably going to be a different. It might be the same name when it comes actually out, but the name that Lindsay's seeing right now, I have it up as Burnstock 99.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see what's about to happen.

Speaker 1:

So 250,000 candles, you 250,000 pissed off people Who've already broken down a bunch of the set you know the day before. And now you have people who are thirsty, hungry, pissed and frat bro-ish and you've given them a source of flames.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I see what's happening. So during the set, towards the end of the set, red Hot Chili Peppers actually ended up having to stop the show because there were little fires that were starting to appear and as they went back on, they did their encore. And Michael Lang says goodnight to everybody. So the big surprise of Prince or whoever like all these different rumors, okay, that's it, bye-bye.

Speaker 2:

I mean. The obvious answer here is that we riot is what I see.

Speaker 1:

So that is actually exactly what ended up happening. Yay, to even make things better, the concert ended at about like low after 12 o'clock.

Speaker 2:

for the concert they paid everybody up until midnight okay, so now we've got nobody who's officially working anymore exactly the everything is is now completely closed.

Speaker 1:

So so all of your workers and everything like that are now off. They're not getting paid and you know you have 250,000 people who are pissed off, who are all these things, and they start tearing down the stage. They start breaking into the merchants, the stage they start breaking into the merchants. They start breaking into the food stands. Part of it was due to the fact of people handing out drinks and things like that. Part of it was just people wanting to get free shit and they started burning the trucks.

Speaker 1:

As you do as one does, uh, but one of the beautiful things about, uh, some of these trucks was that some of these trucks were for, like, the food and in order to be able to preserve food for three days, they are refrigerated trucks. Well, shit that they use to keep the shit cool is also flammable. So now you're having all these people with candles and they are thrown at these trucks and now you have literal bombs that are going off that's fun so, yeah, now you had like all these like fires all over the place.

Speaker 1:

You had bombs that were going off. The the friend that I that was going to drive me up there, uh, I talked to him afterwards and asked him, like you know, like, what his view was. And he's like dude, like I, I got the fuck out of there as soon as you started seeing the fires. Yeah, you could tell you could cut the tension with a knife. He said, as soon as you saw the first set of fires, we got the fuck out of there.

Speaker 1:

And that's kind of how woodstock 99 closed off was. It's all you know. It's, unfortunately, is one of these things that is always going to be known for the virus, uh, and then, on top of it, uh, within the first couple days of after they started hearing, uh, you know, reports pulling or pouring in of women who were sexually assaulted. Uh, during this whole like you know riot you had, uh, and the thing is is that you know you had a lot of people who were, you know not, not involved with the sexual assaults or anything like that, but they ended up being in that mob mentality.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because when everyone's getting hyped up around you, it's really easy to be like I can do it too Like you just get swept up in the emotions and it's like, oh, we're burning shit. Well, it's burning shit.

Speaker 1:

So they didn't see, like the sexual assaults and things like that they, they were focused in on getting this free merchandise. They were, uh, focused in on getting some water, some food, tearing down the entire place. So so that is woodstock 99 and, as of this week, this is the 25th anniversary of woodstock 99 you know, I I think this has a special spot on our show.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad you brought this up so.

Speaker 1:

So you know, usually this is about the point where we do the. You know, what should we do about it now? Well, that was 25 years ago. Yeah, one of the things that we'll kind of talk about next week is one of the things I absolutely love doing every year is I love going on this festival. Every year it's a cruise cruise and I've talked to a couple of people to kind of gauge where, if things are different in in this particular cruise. Anyhow, how people are, you know, acting? And we'll kind of take take it up from there of talking about where we are and where we need to go.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, I'm looking forward to this. So we'll kind of go into all that next week. But yeah, you know, stay tuned and I look forward to telling you all about the Flag of Molly Cruises.

Speaker 2:

Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1:

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We do. We love to hear it. Anything you think we can improve, anything you like, any ideas, because certainly some of the stuff we've talked about has been from well, it's people who listen, but it's people that we know and so they've told us directly. Like you should do one on this. But even for those of you who we don't, know we'd like to hear.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

And I've been Lindsay McLean.

Speaker 1:

Thanks so much, bye, bye.

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